Comcastrodors, please welcome Warren Redlich. Previously the Libertarian candidate for Governor of New York and currently author of the book Fair DUI, Warren practices criminal defense in the State of Florida. Warren provides a small government perspective on the history of the Tea Party, the theater of politics, the rights of drivers and gun owners, and closes with a reflection on mental health, addiction, and prohibition as they relate to criminal policy.
MAXIMUS GROVES: It sounds almost like Bible study.
WR: It was! [09:27] WR: There should have been a uniformity in rejecting national voices. [10:30] WR: I spoke at three Tea Parties in 2010… it was a loose collection of people raising their grievances… there was no one who was qualified and capable of taking those disparate groups and forming them into one unified voice.” [12:00] WR: Paladino & Roger Stone literally paid off two or three tea party leaders… literally put them on the campaign payroll. One was paladino’s driver despite two DUIs in his past… they sort of coopted the movement. [13:00] WR: Trump says he’s going to spend a billion dollars on his own campaign. He’s lying. [15:15] WR: I can’t believe no candidate is tapping into Uber. I’m surprised Rand Paul hasn’t said it’s absolutely absurd for governments [to ban it]. [15:55] WR: Uber is spectacular. I don’t know how I’ll ever ride in a cab again. [16:15] WR: Taxi medallions are a million dollar investment… who owns million dollar items? Rich people. Who benefits from Uber? Regular people. They’re choosing rich people over regular people. [17:05] WR, on Tesla: I can understand where you would want to have a distributor model, but to say somebody else can’t go straight to retail is absurd. [18:25] WR: I think the NRA is too soft. Personally, my view is the NRA should be advocating for legalizing machine guns. [18:45] WR: By the way, Reagan is the one who banned machine guns. [19:05] WR: Reagan doubled federal spending, trippled the debt, banned guns… this is a Republican hero? Obama raised the debt a lot but he didn’t triple the debt. Anything you want to say about Obama, Reagan was worse. [20:15] WR: One of the things Libertarians are absolutely horrible about is talking about things people actually care about. [22:30] WR: This is common in a lot of campaigns: You get somebody who doesn’t have a chance of winning, they’re put up by the establishment, they raise a lot of money, and then give the money to the political consultants of the party. [22:45] WR: Rick Lazio ran against Hillary Clinton for Senate in 2000. Lazio raised almost twice as much money as Clinton. He spent the money on consultants that were connected to Governor Pataki. [23:30] WR, on South Florida: They are really soft on violent criminals and unbelievably difficult on alleged drunk drivers. There’s a mismatch of priorities. [23:55] WR: I’ve seen people charged with felony aggravated battery and the charges are dropped. The defendant is wealthy and buys off the victim. In Albany, they’d say, “I don’t give a shit whether you want the charges dropped; this is a violent criminal!” [24:30] MG: Knowing what the people want and latching onto that – isn’t that what Dick Armey did on a wide scale?
WR: Yes, the difference is that Dick Armey doesn’t believe anything. [24:45] WR: The solution is candidates who are genuine, who believe in something, campaigning on what the voters care about. [25:40] WR: Look at history – what do you see when a government borrows ridiculous amounts of money and makes promises to people it can’t keep? If you look at history, that usually does not turn out well. [26:35] MG: It’s in everyone’s interest that even if it seems to be unsustainable, to prop it up on even higher stilts.
WR: And that makes it a bigger collapse when it happens. [26:50] WR: What I would think would be better is, let’s have the collapse now, and let’s clean out the dead wood, and let’s get back to what our economy should be. [27:05] WR: I mean they are evil, but it’s not that they’re evil and planning to crash the economy. I don’t believe in a massive conspiracy of evil geniuses. I believe in large numbers of conspiracies of not very bright people. [27:30] WR: I don’t think Obama sees that the debt is a real problem. I don’t think he cares. I think he cares about winning the election, satisfying interest groups, and taking care of his donors. [27:55] WR: To me, some kind of collapse is inevitable. [28:20] WR: There are nightmare scenarios that the dollar becomes worthless, supermarket shelves go bare, and 90% of people die in the first three months. [29:15] WR: I’m not saying it will happen, but it’s a realistic possible scenario. [29:45] WR: History hasn’t stopped. There’s been some pretty dark periods in human history, and we have this idea that we’ve sort of solved it. [31:45] WR: Slavery was ended in many places without wars. People talk about Lincoln as one of the greatest presidents. Did any other president get more Americans killed? [34:10] WR, on Roger Stone: I don’t want to sell the guy short. He is very very smart, he is very very talented, and he knows what he’s doing. It’s just he’s evil. I think the same can be said of Karl Rove. [34:25] WR: Libertarians actually care about policy. Roger Stone doesn’t care about policy. He cares about power. He’s been a Republican establishment figure since Nixon. How does this guy become a Libertarian candidate? [35:15] WR, on Augustus Invictus: Some people are saying that Invictus is crazy. I haven’t listened to him enough to judge. [35:30] WR: The one saving grace of the Libertarian party is they’re so disorganized they could never amount a serious candidacy. [36:15] WR: You can always find people in a movement who are over the edge. Rush Limbaugh will do that with feminists. [37:15] WR: I have made somewhat of a name for myself by advocating how to handle traffic stops and checkpoints with a flyer that asserts your rights without you having to speak and roll down your window. [37:45] WR: People thought my flyer was anti-police… it was really intended to stop my clients from doing stupid things. It was not intended to stick in a police officer’s face. [38:00] WR: The classic line – “Am I being detained?” – I’ve even seen the ACLU ask that question, and I’ve never seen a court case where that mattered. [38:30] WR: If a police officer stops your vehicle, you aren’t free to go until you’re free to go. [39:25] WR: The big motivation of the flyer is being able to say you’re remaining silent without having to speak. [39:55] WR: When you get stopped by police, what people typically do is roll down their window and start talking, so they’ve waved their right to remain silent, they’ve waved their 4th Amendment right be free from search and seizure, so the idea is to assert those rights affirmatively. [40:20] WR: If the police officer orders you to roll down your window, he now has to defend that order in court. [46:50] WR: I had a client who’s from Japan, and the police officer said he had impaired speech. I speak Japanese and I can’t tell if somebody has impaired speech. [51:00] WR, on DUI breath test: People have the idea that this is some magic box. It’s junk science. It’s garbage. [51:55] WR: In New York, before you blow they have to observe you for 20 minutes, so one issue that comes up in New York is did they observe him for long enough, and a lot of times they will count the time driving from the point of the arrest to the station. [54:30] WR: If the law focused on dangerous drivers, if it focused on that and really punished them severely, then maybe it would make a difference. [55:30] WR: There are better things we can do than checkpoints. Between DUI and the drug war, it’s more than half what we spend on policing. [57:30] WR: It’s really the harder core drunks that are the problem, and what we don’t give them as a society is a meaningful alternative to driving. [58:55] WR: If you took the money spent on DUI enforcement and spent it on providing meaningful alternatives to driving. [59:00] WR: Nagatatowa – a square mile, 4000 bars, 10 stories high, no parking, and no traffic fatalities. [60:25] WR: If you have all these bars in one place, no parking, and ample mass transit, no one will drive home. [60:30] WR: We have zoning laws that say we can’t have bars near where people live. Then how are they supposed to get home? [62:40] WR: There’s a problem in our society that goes to the gut of the way people think today, which is the answer to any problem is to throw a cop at it and arrest somebody, and I think it’s unfair to police. [68:10] WR: One of my jobs with a client is to help them figure out how not to have this happen again. [68:15] WR: When you represent criminal defendants and you think there’s a mental health problem or substance abuse problem behind it… almost every client I represent, I have them go get a mental health evaluation. [69:10] WR: A mental health evaluation will help me get a better result in a criminal case. [69:50] WR: Remember the Tuscon shooter who shot Gabrielle Giffords? He was in drug court twice and no one noticed he was a psychopath. Vincent Cho, the VA Tech shooter, had been in court before and no one noticed he was a psychopath. [70:10] WR: There’s a trend in drug courts. They do it as sort of an assembly line, one-size-fits-all approach to substance abuse, and the problem is they all have substance abuse problems for different reasons. [71:10] WR: I believe both the VT shooting and Tuscon shooting would have been prevented if both those guys got mental health evaluations. [77:10] WR: Why is it ok for the government to have guns and not the people? Where did that come from? [77:20] WR: It’s funny: I drift from being a libertarian to a minarchist to an anarchist. [77:40] WR: There’s a great book by Murray Rothbard called The Anatomy of the State. You really get the essence of the philosophy on anarchy and why anarchist thinking makes sense. Government itself is immoral. [78:50] WR: People who support government will trot out all sorts of boogeymen that we need to be protected from, and the answer is to create a much bigger boogeyman to protect us, and the boogeyman ends up killing more people than the bad guys would. [79:10] WR: There’s been so much propoganda in favor of government for centuries that people cannot even get their heads around the idea that government itself is actually a crime. [79:35] WR: When did you consent to be governed? [82:35] WR: In the anarchic world he envisions, which when I’m an anarchist I envision it as well, is that everyone is armed, and everybody resists anyone who proports to govern. The minute anyone says, “I am the governor,” everybody shoots him. [83:10] WR: Anarchy would be stable if everyone was armed, and everyone agreed that anyone who tries to assert power gets shot. People think of anarchy as an unstable thing, but it turns out there’s a lot of people who are armed, and most are actually ethical moral people. [83:35] WR: Concealed Carry holders have a far lower crime rate than the average individual, lower than police officers as well. [84:20] WR: You are talking about a bunch of people who are ordered, who believe in order and stability and respect. A well armed, well trained community is actually a very safe community in an anarchist situation. [84:55] WR: The problem is there’s far too many people who are looking for someone to take care of them. Everybody feels they are owed something, they are entitled to something, and it’s a recipe for disaster. [86:05] WR: I am not a religious person, but the practical reality of the welfare state is that it replaces the Church. [88:00] MG: So you imagine that the application of government aid programs essentially lead people naturally away from religion?
WR: Absolutely. [89:00] WR: When government is providing a benefit that used to be provided by the Church, you’re diminishing the importance of the Church. [90:10] WR: Bill Maher is not an atheist. He believes in government. He replaces god with government. [91:30] WR: It’s not that there’s too many attorneys, there’s never enough good lawyers, but the reason we have so many lawyers is we have so many laws, and the reason why have so many laws is… there’s all these people going to government and asking government to fix their problems when they used to go to Church and pray for it. Now they pray to their congressmen. [94:30] WR: My favorite line from Ron Paul: Foreign aid is the US taking money from middle class Americans and giving it to rich foreigners. [96:40] WR: Did we end alcohol prohibition because we realized alcohol is good for you? We ended alcohol prohibition because it doesn’t work. [97:00] WR: People are addicts. Making it illegal doesn’t change the fact that they’re addicts after three decades of prohibition. [99:30] WR: Prohibition makes things worse, prohibition is racist, prohibition destroys lives & gets people killed. In 1933 we figured it out with alcohol, and we just completely rejected the lesson. [102:40] WR: If heroin was legal, it probably wouldn’t be much more to produce than aspirin. If a heroin habit was $50, then the destruction to a person’s life is far less. [107:50] WR: I’m optimistic that, when the collapse happens, many of us will do well and survive and will be able to rebuild society in a better way.
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